The past is not dead. In fact, it's not even past - William Faulkner
The stupefying amount of stammering detritus exhaled here by various unknown eliminationist Zionist assailants is a testament to the non-reciprocity found in fascist bourgeois media architecture: effectual response is made impossible and mimics the equivalence of cacophonous silence found in similar totalitarian control systems manufactured by unconscious machine capital. As nothing is ever being said here, it is better to remain quiet. (after Baudrilllard)
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The only 'hate troll' here (no offense to Scandinavian mythology) is the 'SF Gate Editor' who allows rabid ultra-rightwing Zionists to run amok on the comments section and deletes perfectly valid posts that serve as useful historical background to the current situation. It's beyond obvious at this point that the SF Chronicle is bought and sold by the Zionist Lobby and is an anti-intellectual mouth-piece for myopic militarized goons who will do anything in their power to keep the dumbed-down 'goyim' from understanding real history or the root causes of this conflict. Needless to say, I canceled my subscription to the Chronicle long ago. Pathetic. Sad. Beyond evil.
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In regards to one of the original claims made here previously by my assailant (sadistic spokesperson for Caterpillar corporation), propagating the theory that the Zionist project never had as its main objective the expulsion by 'any means necessary' (including extermination) of the indigenous Arab Semitic population of Palestine, it is important to understand that these are indeed myths transmitted by the ruling class in the US and Israel for the purposes of perception management and have been refuted by numerous post-Zionist scholars. Of note, Nur-eldeen Masalha's critique of the 'official history' regarding the 1948 Palestinian exodus or Nakba ('catastrophe' in Arabic): using declassified Israeli documents Dr. Masalha clearly shows that this was the planned intention of Zionism from the outset. Unfortunately, what is sadly exposed is a history of systemic LYING by the Zionist government...
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Unfortunately, what is sadly exposed is a history of systemic LYING by the Zionist government that continues to this very day, beginning with Chaim Weizmann's (first Israeli president) claim that the Nakba was a 'a miraculous clearing of the land.'
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I've been defamed here by rabid Zionists who BLATANTLY LIE, INTENTIONALLY DISTORT and are *intellectually dishonest,* I refuse to continue this debate until the dumbed down thug ( or thugs) is banned, retracts his/her comments or apologies.
Yishuv Zionism: Its Attitude to Nazism and the Third Reich Reconsidered
H Eshkoli-Wagman - Modern Judaism, 1999 - *Oxford Univ* Press
Zionist policy and attitude on the question of German Jewry [in the Third Reich's early stages] constitute a critical test case whose results raise the historian's hackles. Not only are the cynical nature of Zionist collaboration with the Nazis and Zionist equanimity to the fate of non-Zionist Jews fully revealed, the interdependent nature of these two phenomena is also exposed. It is one thing if the purpose of collaboration is to save lives. But to collaborate in order to save Yishuv Zionism by abandoning a larger Jewish public - how is such a thing possible?
http://mj.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/pdf_extract/19/1/21
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"Making an accusation without evidentiary support is not a fact. Drawing a conclusion based upon supposed motive is not evidence. That is speculation."
What's been posted here is fact with plenty of evidentiary support from legitimate sources. Suppose YOU just *haven't bothered* to look at the sourcing. Just because you're not familiar with the references does not relegate them to the realm of so-called 'conspiracy theory'... essentially a popular culture 'buzzword' completely devoid of any historical or socio-political context and primarily used as a knee-jerk reaction to dissuade individuals from investigating the deeper and darker truths behind the cultural fictions of US history. For example, someone conditioned in this knee-jerk way might deny the existence of a ruling class that engages in social engineering. Omitted, of course is the criminal definition, which occurs in government and the private sector all the time. At any 'rate', for the record, I've been defamed...
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It's quite obvious that you are hell bent on burying information (mostly information I've posted) on this thread and not interested in debating the facts, the root causes of this conflict or any other legitimate information that even slightly deviates from the tightly controlled information disseminated by the US corporate media - I've reported you numerous times for defamatory and slanderous attacks based on BLATANT LIES. YOU are *intellectually dishonest* to say the least and should be immediately BANNED.
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From the Transfer Agreement by Edwin Black:
http://www.transferagreement.com/index.php?page=10197
During the first months of the Hitler regime, leaders of the Zionist movement concluded a controversial pact with the Third Reich which, in its various forms, transferred some 60,000 Jews and $100 million--almost $1.7 billion in 2009 dollars--to Jewish Palestine. In return, Zionists would halt the worldwide Jewish-led anti-nazi boycott that threatened to topple the Hitler regime in its first year.
That's for starters.
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You can speculate all you like about elaborate conspiracy theories.
There is little to no evidence to support them. And pointing that out
does not make the skeptic stupid, uneducated or ill-informed. It is a
weak argument to try and support your side of a debate by attacking the
education of those of us who disagree with you. Skepticism is one of
the foundations of all critical thought. And evidence is what is
required to overcome skepticism.
Making an accusation without evidentiary support is not a fact. Drawing a conclusion based upon supposed motive is not evidence. That is speculation. And your insults about the intelligence of your opposition is one of the hallmarks of any conspiracy theorist. I know that you like to think that you know something that makes you smarter than everybody else. But I don't have to be an expert on Zionism (which I am not) to know that you mentioned really obscure names and left out the major founders of Zionism like Weitsman and Herzl. I also looked up those names and at a cursory glance found no indication of the accusations you make though I am sure they are written on that obscure blog you posted. Such a charge if it had any merit would be readily available on any basic search of those names...unless you believe there is a "conspiracy" preventing wider publication of this information.
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